Curse

Blackest Rose · Dec 08, 2006, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Has there been any effect on key Faction gameplay elements as a result of the Nightfall chapter release.

Do people still Faction Farm?
Has the faction required to control outposts decreased noticably?
Is it now even harder to get a non-henchie group into the two faction missions? (Cantha born/Tyria born toons... you know the ones... name escapes me right now)
Is anyone even playing the elite missions?

I hope that Anet make the decision to open elite missions to everyone - otherwise it's a pity that that content would be locked out for the majority.
(i.e. like they extended the increased storage to prophecies....)
It would help breathe some life back into them.

quickmonty · Dec 08, 2006, 12:28 AM // 00:28

I stopped by Cantha on my way to Elona to get my assassin hero. Other than that, and going back to cap elites, I have no desire to visit Cantha again. I don't miss those dreary ghettos.

Scutilla · Dec 08, 2006, 12:58 AM // 00:58

I'll be going through sometime to beat the game on my mesmer and bring my paragon and dervish through. Heroes should make henching my way through it a lot easier; other than that Nightfall won't change Factions much for me.

More Outrage · Dec 08, 2006, 01:22 AM // 01:22

Stopped by Keineng today to buy some skills and ended up in dis2 with no more than a handful of people, kinda seemed sad after my last visit there with at least 4 busteling districts full of trade.

I agree the elite missions should now be opened up like they were for the weekend special event. Don`t think anyone faction farms anymore but I may be wrong having never done it myself.

They should also add celestial skills for new proffesions for the last 2 missions even if only to get a cool phoenix pet.

Don`t see any point in returning to the chapter if they don`t do something to improve it apart from any special event (apart from a little farm from Maatu Keep when needs must).

Vilaptca · Dec 08, 2006, 01:32 AM // 01:32

Except for going back in a little while to capture a few elites on my Assassin, and maybe some for my Ele heroes, nope, I can't see myself going back to Factions for any real good reason.

Well...I guess to finish off my set of Kurzick armor...

Terra Xin · Dec 08, 2006, 01:35 AM // 01:35

I got rich in Nightfall, went to get my 15k luxon armor... hated it so I got it salvaged :S.

Alot of those top guilds are still Faction Farming though. One of our allied guilds are good for ABing^^

The best thing that Factions has left for us is the ability to create alliances.

stanza · Dec 08, 2006, 01:44 AM // 01:44

New lvl 20 toon needed quickly?
visit cantha .
I never built an ele so I am considering making him canthan ..lvl 20 in 2 days.. ( time i have) transporting him to where ever I need for Skills.
Factions is a tool

Antheus · Dec 08, 2006, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Cantha is depressing. Between linear locked gates, rushing through missions to beat timer, getting ganked by the random spawns, it just doesn't play all that well.

But locked content is what really hurts most.

Thallandor · Dec 08, 2006, 02:11 AM // 02:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terra Xin

]The best thing that Factions has left for us is the ability to create alliances.

Agreeded.

on Topic:

Most Factions are easier now with Heros imo without having to suffer bad PuGs.

More Outrage · Dec 08, 2006, 02:11 AM // 02:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanza

New lvl 20 toon needed quickly?
visit cantha .
I never built an ele so I am considering making him canthan ..lvl 20 in 2 days.. ( time i have) transporting him to where ever I need for Skills.
Factions is a tool

Yeah, forgot about that but then I`ve already got lvl20s of each prof so only need is for skills then, when you haven`t got time to play through prophesies? That only means the starter island is of use.

Lavindathar · Dec 08, 2006, 02:34 AM // 02:34

The big guilds still faction farm.

And we own an outpost 90% of the time, so the only time I go there is to AB or FF.

And to sell items in Kaineng, if they are better suited to selling there.

More Outrage · Dec 08, 2006, 02:42 AM // 02:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lavindathar

The big guilds still faction farm.

And we own an outpost 90% of the time, so the only time I go there is to AB or FF.

And to sell items in Kaineng, if they are better suited to selling there.

Big question is: How would you feel if the elite missions where made freely available through NPCs in Keineng.

Riotgear · Dec 08, 2006, 03:08 AM // 03:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallandor

Most Factions are easier now with Heros imo without having to suffer bad PuGs.

And the absolutely awful henchmen. They managed to make them incredibly dumb, Talon Silverwing manages to get himself killed at record speed.

I haven't seen bad PUGs really be a problem there, if anything, several missions simply don't have the heroes respond to them properly (i.e. getting quickly wiped by Argo's Cry because the heroes waste their interrupts on other crap, or randomly decide to not interrupt it). Compared to Nightfall, where the missions are hard and I need to find a way to bitchslap all the monks that bring Heal Other and Healing Breeze then get owned by environmental effects, or worse, QZ.

Anarkii · Dec 08, 2006, 05:15 AM // 05:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackest Rose

Do people still Faction Farm?

Yeah, they still do. I have no damn clue why, but the controlling alliances still farm a ton of faction each day.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackest Rose

Has the faction required to control outposts decreased noticably?

HZH used to be near 35 million before Nightfall's release. So yes, it has decreased, but they still maintain it at a steep level.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackest Rose

Is it now even harder to get a non-henchie group into the two faction missions? (Cantha born/Tyria born toons... you know the ones... name escapes me right now)

Vizunah Square Foreign Quarter - Yes, I hardly ever see people there. In the Local Quarter, you can get human groups if you feel like sticking around long enough.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackest Rose

Is anyone even playing the elite missions?

Hardly. Whenever I manage to get into Urgoz's outpost after waiting for hours on ferries....I always find it a ghost town. A few non-pugs do it regularly still, though. The rest of the hardcore PvErs moved onto DoA...and so did I.

Westofeden · Dec 08, 2006, 07:39 AM // 07:39

I'm in Cantha with my para now, then to Tyria.

Perynne · Dec 08, 2006, 08:04 AM // 08:04

I'm in Cantha, playing through with my assassin and having a blast. I don't know why people complain about it so much, since I for one am enjoying myself.

Maybe it's because Factions was my first GW game so I got used to the gameplay.

It's true that it's harder to get good groups there now (and pretty much impossible if you play an assassin) but luckily I have some guildmates helping me out whenever possible.
I'm also willing to help out people in the european side of the game, pm me ingame either as Rosemary Marron or Tomie Pepper if you want some company or help.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Dec 08, 2006, 08:14 AM // 08:14

Meh someone should start up a thread for sign-ups to get our NF toons through Cantha/Tyria I really don't wanna have to hench Vizunah Square with my Derv, meh I need ppl to talk with garr.

*Darcy* · Dec 08, 2006, 11:38 AM // 11:38

@Perynne - It was always impossible to get in a group if you were an assassin. When Factions started, there were hundreds of "a ninja!" assassins created who were responsible for the bad reputation that still clings to the profession. Every mission area chat was full of "GLF more NO ASSASSINS". They were reduced to begging people to let them join so they could get off the island.

Luckily, most of those characters were abandoned and we are left with the skilled players.

Vilaptca · Dec 08, 2006, 11:54 AM // 11:54

Hmm...forgot about the fast access to a level 20 character...but I really don't want to play through the rest of the campaign for the skill unlocks. It may be time to PvP again....

Emu · Dec 08, 2006, 12:55 PM // 12:55

Fast level 20s are nice and all, but the corresponding grind to get your heroes up to speed turns me off of wanting to start another Canthan